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partsgone KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 7 Location: New York Joined: Dec 22^nd, 2019 Gender:	Carbine I.D. Dec 22^nd, 2019 at 6:01pm	Print Post
	I have an 1896 Norwegian cavalry carbine or an 1897 Artillery Engineer carbine. It is marked 1900 on the receiver. The stock has had the rear artillery position hole filled in so I awesome that it is an Engineer. Is there any other way to I.D it? There are no marks on the stock. It is missing some parts I need to find and would like to know if the buttstock is the same as a rifle with the trap door or did they has a specific carbine one without. Thanks

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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Carbine I.D. Reply #1 - Dec 22^nd, 2019 at 6:18pm	Print Post
	'Partsgone' - The serial number will allow identification of the original configuration on Norwegian Krags.


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partsgone KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 7 Location: New York Joined: Dec 22^nd, 2019 Gender:	Re: Carbine I.D. Reply #2 - Dec 22^nd, 2019 at 10:23pm	Print Post
	Would you know where i may find a list of serial number that will tell me. thanks scott

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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Carbine I.D. Reply #3 - Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 2:12am	Print Post
	Brophy's book, "The Krag Rifle", or post your serial number, (using "XX" for the last two digits, if you must), and I will look it up.


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Tom Butts KCA Forum Admin KCA Official Member Offline Krag enthusiast! Posts: 347 Location: New York State Joined: Apr 1^st, 2002 Gender:	Re: Carbine I.D. Reply #4 - Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 2:36am	Print Post
	FWIW Post the whole number, with no Xs.


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partsgone KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 7 Location: New York Joined: Dec 22^nd, 2019 Gender:	Re: Carbine I.D. Reply #5 - Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 2:38am	Print Post
	my number is 4088 all matching but no butt plate, marked 1900 thanks scott

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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Carbine I.D. Reply #6 - Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 7:16am	Print Post
	'Partsgone' - Your Norwegian Krag appears to be a "Carbine M-1897 for Mountain Artillery and Royal Engineers". In 1900 carbines were built to this classification from serial # 3,131 to 4,696. The Mountain Artillery and Royal Engineer carbine has the rear 'Sling-Stud' placed 3.94 inches in front of the butt-plate. (Otherwise the guns are identical to the M-1895 Cavalry Carbine). Both carbine models have a solid steel butt-plate, measuring 4.29" X 1.50", without a 'butt trap-door'.


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partsgone KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 7 Location: New York Joined: Dec 22^nd, 2019 Gender:	Re: Carbine I.D. Reply #7 - Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 2:06pm	Print Post
	Great, thanks again for your help. scott

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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Carbine I.D. Reply #8 - Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 3:32pm	Print Post
	From a Norwegian reference, "Krag-Jorgensen Gevaeret" by Karl Egil Hanevik:


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partsgone KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 7 Location: New York Joined: Dec 22^nd, 2019 Gender:	Re: Carbine I.D. Reply #9 - Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 4:08pm	Print Post
	great, The stock has a duffle cut, i see a company sells a new repair piece, but they are out. Do you know how it was finished? This one appears to have a true oil or flat varnish. Should it be a oil finish? scott

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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Carbine I.D. Reply #10 - Dec 24^th, 2019 at 8:24am	Print Post
	Scott: I believe the Norwegians used Raw Linseed Oil on lighter colored European walnut stocks. Photo of model/1897 carbine and detail photo of a 'butt-swivel' (actually an 'eye-stud' that the Norwegian sling snapped onto).


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partsgone KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 7 Location: New York Joined: Dec 22^nd, 2019 Gender:	Re: Carbine I.D. Reply #11 - Dec 24^th, 2019 at 10:53pm	Print Post
	thanks again.The photos are very helpful. I love this carbine.

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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Carbine I.D. Reply #12 - Dec 25^th, 2019 at 2:23am	Print Post
	FWIW - Here is a picture of a Norwegian Sling on a model/1912 carbine.


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partsgone KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 7 Location: New York Joined: Dec 22^nd, 2019 Gender:	Re: Carbine I.D. Reply #13 - Dec 26^th, 2019 at 6:08am	Print Post
	I'm guessing those slings down come up too often. Would you have a photo of the carbine butt plate? thanks scott

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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Carbine I.D. Reply #14 - Dec 26^th, 2019 at 7:02am	Print Post
	Sorry, I don't have a 'full-view' butt-plate photo.


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