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1901 Carbine Sight??
Mar 16th, 2013 at 5:08am
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This sight was on my M1898 rifle I just purchased.  It appears to be a M1901C sight or at least 2/3rds of it.

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There is a "C" marking on the base and the ladder,

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but not the slide.  Does this mean that it isn't a Carbine sight?  Or only 2/3rds of a Carbine sight?

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I do plan on shooting it some with cast bullets.  Should I look to trade it for a rifle sight or just forget about the markings use it as is and keep a log on the correct elevation settings for the actual target range? 

If I do look to get the correct sight, is there any premium that accrues to a 1901 Carbine over a rifle sight?

I certainly appreciate all the knowledge shared here and couldn't even begin to repay you except to say THANK YOU again and again.

Bob
  
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Re: 1901 Carbine Sight??
Reply #1 - Mar 16th, 2013 at 1:22pm
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The 1901 carbine sight is worth at least 3X what the 1901 rifle sight is worth.
  
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Re: 1901 Carbine Sight??
Reply #2 - Mar 16th, 2013 at 2:00pm
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And, if anyone ever stumbles over a 1901 sight with no 'platforms' on the ramps, and a 2100 leaf, I'll make it worth their while!
  
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Re: 1901 Carbine Sight??
Reply #3 - Mar 16th, 2013 at 2:03pm
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So without the "C" marking on the slide, this would still be considered a good Carbine sight?

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Re: 1901 Carbine Sight??
Reply #4 - Mar 17th, 2013 at 1:48am
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I'm sorry - I thought, looking quickly, that I saw a faint outline. If not, then you would want to replace it - but it is still more valuable than a rifle sight.
  
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Re: 1901 Carbine Sight??
Reply #5 - Mar 17th, 2013 at 12:22pm
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As much as I want to see that "C" on the slide, I've looked in daylight, moonlight, incandescent light, fluorescent light, candlelight, flashlight and if I can ever remember where I put it I'll try my black light, but so far, I can't see a mark.

That leads me to my second dumb question of the weekend.  Where and who would you suggest I try to find the appropriate slide?

I don't think collecting would be nearly as much fun if it was easy!

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Bob
  
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Re: 1901 Carbine Sight??
Reply #6 - Mar 17th, 2013 at 8:55pm
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Beachbumbbob:  Unless someone has aggressively filed or machined a 1901 Rifle sight slide to fit the 1901 Carbine sight ladder, your slide is a Carbine slide that wear has probably defaced so the small 'c' can no longer be seen.  The Carbine slide width is .235".  The Rifle slide width is .289".  A difference of .054" (54 thousandths).  The Rifle ladder corrects for drift and the Carbine ladder does not.  Attached is a photo contrasting the Rifle and Carbine 1901 rear sights (the Carbine sight is the upper one).  Notice how fragile the "c" mark is on the slide.
  
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Re: 1901 Carbine Sight??
Reply #7 - Mar 17th, 2013 at 10:22pm
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Beachbumbob:  The widths I gave for the 1901 slides, are the distances between the legs of their 'ladders'.  Also notice, the legs of the Carbine ladder are parallel (inside and outside).  The legs of the Rifle sight ladder taper on the inside to correct for drift as the slide is elevated.  Rifle and Carbine slides are not interchangeable.
  
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Re: 1901 Carbine Sight??
Reply #8 - Mar 18th, 2013 at 2:02am
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There appears to be no signs of filing or machining.  I think the wear and color match up pretty well.

And the widths are correct.  If and when I go to swap this sight I just didn't want to take someone or be taken.  I really didn't pay that much attention to the sight when I was purchasing the rifle.  Used to seeing rifle sights on fake carbines but not carbine sights on a rifle.  That just makes it a little better of a deal.  Got a Kerr No-BuckL sling with it also.

And from what I've read so far, the light loaded cast bullets aren't going to come close to matching ladder range graduations anyhow.........

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Bob
  
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