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Ken Knox KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 12 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2013	Krag Take Down Tool Nov 14^th, 2013 at 8:05pm	Print Post
	Still learning about my Krag. I have a krag take down tool. What is the peg used for? Thanks, Ken


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Krag Take Down Tool Reply #1 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 8:58pm	Print Post
	The 'drift pin' on your tool is too long.� It has either been replaced or the tool is a 'bogus' altered 1903 Springfield tool.� The pin on your tool also seems to go the wrong way, but, some tools were incorrectly assembled. The 'drift pin' on the 1897 tool was reportedly used in removing the butt plate cap, trigger, and lower barrel band (stock) pin.� (I have no clue why Springfield Armory would want soldiers removing/dis-assembling these parts)!� Attached photo shows correct 1897 Tool. (Mallory, 'Krag Rifle Story', calls this an 1894 Tool).


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Krag Take Down Tool Reply #2 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 11:15pm	Print Post
	Ken: I hope I am not coming across as arrogant or a 'know it all'. I am curious where you obtained your 'Krag' tool. I believe there are a number of things wrong with it. I have seen original tools that were assembled incorrectly by Springfield with the pin drift pointing the wrong way. But, your tool seems to have an odd looking "US" to me. Your screwdriver tips appear 're-ground' and the 'pin-drift' is too long and looks new. You should look at the hinge end of the tool for evidence of a third screwdriver being ground-off. I am attaching a picture of an 1897 Krag tool next to an early 1903 Springfield tool. The 1903 tools were made for 40 years, through WW2, by private makers, as well as, Springfield. I hope you do not have too much invested in your tool. Real 1897 tools are often priced around $90.


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Ken Knox KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 12 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2013	Re: Krag Take Down Tool Reply #3 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 11:44pm	Print Post
	butlersrangers,, I came here to learn and I appreciate all the information you are giving me. I purchaced the tool on ebay. I see what you mean about the "US". It is of a different font than the ones in your pictures. There is no evidence of a 3,rd screwdriver being ground off. I checked it out under a microscope. When I recieved it it had some surface rust on it and old oil so I put it in my ultrasonic cleaner with a clock cleaning solution. That normally removes rust and gunk without harming the surface. That accounts for the new look I can see why someone would turn a 1903 into a krag lookalike but do they make complete repros? Ken


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Krag Take Down Tool Reply #4 - Nov 15^th, 2013 at 12:31am	Print Post
	Ken:� I'm not aware of reproduction 1897 tools.� Unfortunately, it would not be hard to make a fake from the more common 1903 tools, especially early ones.� My Krag tool is marked "US" (no periods) and my early 1903 tool is marked "U.S." (with periods) and the same style of letters. By the way, I learn something new every day. Answering questions sure makes me see things in a new light.


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psteinmayer KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 2391 Location: Ypsilanti, Michgan Joined: Aug 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Krag Take Down Tool Reply #5 - Nov 15^th, 2013 at 12:33am	Print Post
	Yeah... good question Ken, because I need to get one also to complete my 1898. I can tell you that you will find them at the antique arms shows.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Krag Take Down Tool Reply #6 - Nov 17^th, 2013 at 3:47am	Print Post
	Back in July, 2012, MadFarmers posted this picture of some of his Krag tools on the KCA forum. It is worth studying to get a 'feel' for the appearance of an authentic 1897 Krag screwdriver/tool.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Krag Take Down Tool Reply #7 - Nov 17^th, 2013 at 4:00am	Print Post
	Earlier this year, I successfully bid on this tool.� The Seller let me 'back out' of the deal when I realized and explained that the tool was not correct.� I believe it was made from a 1903 Springfield tool.� The drift pin is too long and points the 'wrong' way.� The "US" mark is also not the correct style of lettering and there seems to be more metal surrounding the rivet at the top end of the tool.


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Ken Knox KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 12 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2013	Re: Krag Take Down Tool Reply #8 - Nov 17^th, 2013 at 3:27pm	Print Post
	Thanks for the information. I contacted the seller and will be returning it for a refund. Ken


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gnoahhh KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 147 Location: Annapolis, MD Joined: Feb 1^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Krag Take Down Tool Reply #9 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 3:53pm	Print Post
	Good info. And here I thought that the only tool needed to take down a Krag was a two-pound hammer!


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Krag Take Down Tool Reply #10 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 10:19pm	Print Post
	Only a hammer will do if you are aka Bubba or Cousin Eddie!


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Krag Take Down Tool Reply #11 - Nov 22^nd, 2013 at 3:16pm	Print Post
	Reproduction Tool - S&S Firearms: I was looking at my copy of the 2012 - S&S Firearms Catalog today and noticed it listed a tool on page 27: "K575A M1897 Combination Tool (reproduction).........$30.00". I don't know what they look like or how they were made, but, repros are 'Out There'. (ps. They also list reproduction brass muzzle covers -- $32.00). I have not minded reproduction items in the past when they were clearly known to be reproductions. It's getting to be too confusing and 'some people got no scruples'! It is a jungle out there.


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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: Krag Take Down Tool Reply #12 - Nov 22^nd, 2013 at 3:47pm	Print Post
	You mean Boxer and Feinstein, right? I think I'll save my postage.


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JOHN42768 KCA Official Member Offline Krag Collector! Posts: 94 Location: Upstate N.Y. Joined: Apr 30^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Krag Take Down Tool Reply #13 - Nov 22^nd, 2013 at 5:14pm	Print Post
	Same postage saving apply with Schumer & Gillibrand.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Krag Take Down Tool Reply #14 - Nov 22^nd, 2013 at 6:40pm	Print Post
	Levin and Stabenow, too!


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