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GeneSC KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 9 Location: Seneca, S.C. Joined: Oct 10^th, 2015 Gender:	Questions about Krag 30/40 Oct 10^th, 2015 at 5:15pm	Print Post
	I was recently given an old (Abused or WELL used) Springfield Armory Model 1898 Rifle. I thought they were all chambered for 30/40 Krag ammo but this one seems to have a larger barrell, a 30/40 wll go into the barrell including the neck and is STILL loose. a 30 cal cleaning brush will fall all the way through it, but a .45 cal brush seems to clean it just right?? just wondered if they made some in some kind of .45? New here and it wouldn't let me post photos on the first post will try later.


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GeneSC KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 9 Location: Seneca, S.C. Joined: Oct 10^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Questions about Krag 30/40 Reply #1 - Oct 10^th, 2015 at 5:18pm	Print Post
	Trying to add some photos (You need to *Login* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* to view media files and links)


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psteinmayer KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 2391 Location: Ypsilanti, Michgan Joined: Aug 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Questions about Krag 30/40 Reply #2 - Oct 10^th, 2015 at 5:36pm	Print Post
	First, let me welcome you to the forum, and to the wonderful world of Krags! Some Krags were converted for hunting and re-chambered for rounds that were larger than .30 caliber. Possibly .35? You may need to make a casting of the chamber to be certain of what round it would take.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Questions about Krag 30/40 Reply #3 - Oct 10^th, 2015 at 5:42pm	Print Post
	"GeneSC' - Welcome to the KCA Forum. Just a hunch. Does your Krag still have 'Rifling'? I wonder if some Civilian owner had it altered to take some .44 or .45 caliber shot-shell? Springfield and the U.S. Army did not do this. You have quite the curiosity!


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GeneSC KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 9 Location: Seneca, S.C. Joined: Oct 10^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Questions about Krag 30/40 Reply #4 - Oct 10^th, 2015 at 6:07pm	Print Post
	butlersrangers wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 5:42pm: "GeneSC' - Welcome to the KCA Forum. Just a hunch. Does your Krag still have 'Rifling'? I wonder if some Civilian owner had it altered to take some .44 or .45 caliber shot-shell? After I got all the 'Gunk out of the barrell and got it polished a little with a barrell brush, you can see the "rings" of rifling but they do not have any depth at all, very little if any grooves. A 30/40 shell sill seat nicely, is a little loose but so is my other Krag. but on it the bullet itself will NOT go into the barrell (which is how it should be) On this one the bullet and the brass neck of the cartridge will go in and rattle around. Springfield and the U.S. Army did not do this. You have quite the curiosity!


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Questions about Krag 30/40 Reply #5 - Oct 10^th, 2015 at 6:18pm	Print Post
	GeneSC - If you measure or slug the bore and provide more close-up detail pictures (sights, bolt-face, action), you will get better information. I would, in the meantime, highly recommend Not Shooting this Krag. In your photos, it appears there may be a 'groove' cut into the top of the 'receiver ring' (unless I'm seeing an illusion). I suspect this Krag was turned into some type of "Shot Gun".


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Parashooter KCA Forum Member Offline Kragmudgeon Posts: 514 Location: Connecticut Joined: Feb 4^th, 2010	Re: Questions about Krag 30/40 Reply #6 - Oct 10^th, 2015 at 6:32pm	Print Post
	If an 000 buckshot is too small, try a .40 to .45 caliber round ball. (You need to *Login* to view media files and links)


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GeneSC KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 9 Location: Seneca, S.C. Joined: Oct 10^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Questions about Krag 30/40 Reply #7 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 10:16am	Print Post
	The inside of the barrel has been ground/drilled out.pretty rough too! don't have a mic. right now but will try to measure it sometime today. the ball was a .44 cal. .454 i think. (You need to *Login* to view media files and links) Inside the magazine/ chamber area looks like it had some patchwork at some point. looks like bronze. (You need to *Login* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* to view media files and links) Sights have been removed. (You need to *Login* to view media files and links) A groove has been cut in the receiver ring.


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GeneSC KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 9 Location: Seneca, S.C. Joined: Oct 10^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Questions about Krag 30/40 Reply #8 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 10:20am	Print Post
	Oops, missed a photo, no "edit" option here that I could find. This is a photo of the "patchwork" (You need to *Login* to view media files and links)


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Questions about Krag 30/40 Reply #9 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 12:23pm	Print Post
	Think Shotgun. - It looks like barrel muzzle area was drilled for a shotgun bead and the receiver 'groove' looks 'shotgunish'. It is possibly .410 or .44-40 shotshell ????? Pure Bubba!


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GeneSC KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 9 Location: Seneca, S.C. Joined: Oct 10^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Questions about Krag 30/40 Reply #10 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 3:39pm	Print Post
	Yep, barrel and chamber have been ground out. 3" 410 shotshell fits nicely, still don't think I want to shoot it. Thanks for your help. will post some pics of my other Krag.


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psteinmayer KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 2391 Location: Ypsilanti, Michgan Joined: Aug 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Questions about Krag 30/40 Reply #11 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 11:38pm	Print Post
	BUBBA destroys yet another Krag!!! So sad...


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reincarnated KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 562 Joined: Mar 11^th, 2012	Re: Questions about Krag 30/40 Reply #12 - Oct 12^th, 2015 at 6:40pm	Print Post
	Does the magazine feed .410 shotgun cartridges? Bubba strikes again!


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reincarnated KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 562 Joined: Mar 11^th, 2012	Re: Questions about Krag 30/40 Reply #13 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 4:32pm	Print Post
	Another question occurred to me. A Lee-Enfield can be converted to .45-70 without too much difficulty, and the cartridges feed from the magazine. Can a Krag be converted to .45-70?


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madsenshooter KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1079 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2009	Re: Questions about Krag 30/40 Reply #14 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 5:57pm	Print Post
	Frank DeHass mentioned that his son and another fellow made one feed 444 Marlin. Here in Ohio the 375 Win and 38-55 are now deer legal, I might make up one of them.


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