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tda KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 13 Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	what do i have Jan 7^th, 2017 at 6:12pm	Print Post
	this was my grandfathers rifle. would like input as to exactly what kind of krag it is. been in family forever. thanks in advance.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: what do i have Reply #1 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 7:14pm	Print Post
	'tda' - Welcome to the KCA Forum. Your grandfather's Krag, #18262, started life as a U.S. model 1892 rifle, assembled around July, 1895, at Springfield Armory. The original barrel would have been 30 inches long. Over the years it has become a mixture of parts. Either someone has shortened the original barrel or someone has put a carbine barrel on it. A clearer photo of the front-sight base and its attachment to the barrel would clarify this question. The Stock appears to be a shortened model 1896 rifle stock and the rear-sight is a model 1896 sight. Most of the model 1892 rifles were rebuilt and updated between 1897 to 1902. This Krag may have undergone such alteration, but, that would not explain the shortened barrel. (The barrel alteration happened in Civilian hands). Great Family Heirloom!


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tda KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 13 Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: what do i have Reply #2 - Jan 8^th, 2017 at 11:46am	Print Post
	thanks for the reply, i have always wondered about the guns history. I can get a picture of the front sight if it will provide some more info.


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madsenshooter KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1079 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2009	Re: what do i have Reply #3 - Jan 8^th, 2017 at 11:22pm	Print Post
	I have a few of them cut down like yours. I've found them very accurate.


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tda KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 13 Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: what do i have Reply #4 - Jan 9^th, 2017 at 11:06pm	Print Post
	have shot mine only a few times, winchester 180gr ptsp. 4" high at 50yds, 4" high at 100yds. hits the 8"steel plate at 150 everytime.


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Culpeper KCA Forum Member Offline Posts: 904 Location: Right Coast of Africa Joined: Mar 30^th, 2005	Re: what do i have Reply #5 - Jan 14^th, 2017 at 4:19am	Print Post
	Hmmmmm. I don't know. It does not look like the barrel has been cut back. Could you be so kind as to drop a cleaning rod down the barrel on a closed bolt and mark the rod at the muzzle. As mentioned above it should be 30 inches. Good shooting.

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tda KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 13 Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: what do i have Reply #6 - Jan 14^th, 2017 at 12:01pm	Print Post
	here is a picture of the front sight, I could get a couple better ones if needed.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: what do i have Reply #7 - Jan 14^th, 2017 at 1:57pm	Print Post
	'tda' - Your picture does not show front-sight with enough clarity. You may have a barrel that was once for a carbine. (Your action is from a model 1892 rifle). Attached picture by 'Parashooter' shows detail of how the Armory mounted Krag front-sight base.


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tda KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 13 Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: what do i have Reply #8 - Jan 15^th, 2017 at 3:29pm	Print Post
	Culpepper: Barrel lenghth, 24" butlersrangers: here's another pic of front sight


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: what do i have Reply #9 - Jan 15^th, 2017 at 3:47pm	Print Post
	IMHO - a lot better than usual, but, not Springfield crown and dovetail.


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Parashooter KCA Forum Member Offline Kragmudgeon Posts: 514 Location: Connecticut Joined: Feb 4^th, 2010	Re: what do i have Reply #10 - Jan 15^th, 2017 at 4:42pm	Print Post
	That's an interesting bit of work. Had it been brazed and finished flush instead of "staked", it might be indistinguishable from original.


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Culpeper KCA Forum Member Offline Posts: 904 Location: Right Coast of Africa Joined: Mar 30^th, 2005	Re: what do i have Reply #11 - Jan 15^th, 2017 at 5:27pm	Print Post
	Ok. It is a cut down barrel. The original picture threw me off. I wonder if the sight was removed from the barrel stub by taking a chunk of the barrel to be the dovetail without unbrazing the sight first.

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tda KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 13 Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: what do i have Reply #12 - Jan 15^th, 2017 at 8:20pm	Print Post
	thanks for the input folks, really enjoying learning about this gun. unfortunately my father and grandfather were gone before i had sense enough to learn what they knew about this Krag. Is it safe to say that this is a fairly well done mongrel? someday I will pass this gun along and would like to provide an accurate story. Thanks again for helping with this.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: what do i have Reply #13 - Jan 15^th, 2017 at 9:43pm	Print Post
	It is a useful Krag for 'Hunting' with a mixture of parts from different vintages. Springfield updated a lot of model 1892 rifles in the early 1900s. It is likely one of these rifles that got 'Sportered'. The barrel was shortened to a non-standard 24 inches and the original front-sight nicely reused and repositioned.


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