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1911Ron KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 59 Location: Buckeye,Az Joined: May 16^th, 2015 Gender:	Newbie intro May 17^th, 2015 at 7:32am	Print Post
	Greetings I have recently purchased a Springfield Model 1898 in 30-40 Krag it looks to be in great shape all of the wood is there, is it original i don't know. The serial #4882xx the inspectors cartouche is nice and clear the date is 1903. (You need to *Login* to view media files and links) Thanks for any info you can provide!


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Newbie intro Reply #1 - May 17^th, 2015 at 12:47pm	Print Post
	'1911Ron': Welcome to the KCA Forum. That is a mighty nice looking Model 1898 Krag. #4882XX is one of the highest numbers reported and would be at the end of production in 1903. That Arizona Sun is pretty hard on wood. You should send it up to KCA member, 'psteinmayer', in Michigan for storage!


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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: Newbie intro Reply #2 - May 17^th, 2015 at 3:50pm	Print Post
	Very nice rifle, but I'd re-check that number - which I believe (per Farmer's Notes) is out-of-bounds - could it be 4382XX?


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psteinmayer KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 2391 Location: Ypsilanti, Michgan Joined: Aug 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Newbie intro Reply #3 - May 17^th, 2015 at 4:21pm	Print Post
	I think Butlersrangers has a great idea! I'll take really good care of it, and only feed it mild loads to keep it healthy... LOL Very nice looking rifle! Welcome to the forum, and to the wonderful world of Krags!!!


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reincarnated KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 562 Joined: Mar 11^th, 2012	Re: Newbie intro Reply #4 - May 18^th, 2015 at 2:33am	Print Post
	What is the highest verified number? And do we have any discussion of what is in Farmer's notes?


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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: Newbie intro Reply #5 - May 18^th, 2015 at 6:25am	Print Post
	482872 is highest number observed - may not be the ultimate, but unlikely to be off by 6,000, unless the "spare receivers" made in FY03/04 were Krags. They could have been either that, or 1903s, but, according to Joe, the records do NOT state which model. Since we had to pay a royalty on the Krag - one would not think that large amounts of spares would be run off at end of production, when a new rifle was coming. The book is a trip - WELL worth the $40, though that fact does NOT sink in at first glance. It would impossible to describe to someone who has not read it, and, not everyone will like it. The text is excellent, if a bit quirky, but the photography is truly abysmal, a fact which he does not contest.


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1911Ron KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 59 Location: Buckeye,Az Joined: May 16^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Newbie intro Reply #6 - May 18^th, 2015 at 8:10am	Print Post
	Dick Hosmer wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 3:50pm: Very nice rifle, but I'd re-check that number - which I believe (per Farmer's Notes) is out-of-bounds - could it be 4382XX? Dick I rechecked the number and the second number is definitely an 8, i seem to have a knack on getting Rifles that are out of the Serial number range or oddity, i have a Rock Island that has serial number that is after Rock Island stopped production. I found out that they shipped Rock Island marked receivers to Springfield Armory to be built by Springfield and serialed by them.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Newbie intro Reply #7 - May 18^th, 2015 at 2:15pm	Print Post
	FWIW - The Appendix in F. Mallory's "Krag Rifle Story", 2nd. ed., lists four Krag serial numbers higher than "1911Ron's": #488438 and #499036, (1898 rifles destroyed at New Cumberland, 05/17/29). #497288, (1898 rifle sold at Raritan Arsenal, 07/15/22). #759246 (Justice Dept. San Francisco, 03/06/33). This last one is so high, I'm sure it's a reading or recording error - IMHO.


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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: Newbie intro Reply #8 - May 18^th, 2015 at 10:21pm	Print Post
	I know. I was surprised by Joe's info, myself. The 1903/04 spares must have been Krags, and, at least some of them must have found their way onto guns. Would be nice to get his take, but his current vacation from the forums seems to be lasting longer than previous ones.


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reincarnated KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 562 Joined: Mar 11^th, 2012	Re: Newbie intro Reply #9 - May 19^th, 2015 at 2:16am	Print Post
	Was the royalty paid on spare parts (replacement actions) or on completed military rifles? No royalty was paid on the GPRs.


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1911Ron KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 59 Location: Buckeye,Az Joined: May 16^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Newbie intro Reply #10 - May 19^th, 2015 at 3:33am	Print Post
	butlersrangers wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 12:47pm: '1911Ron': Welcome to the KCA Forum. That is a mighty nice looking Model 1898 Krag. #4882XX is one of the highest numbers reported and would be at the end of production in 1903. That Arizona Sun is pretty hard on wood. You should send it up to KCA member, 'psteinmayer', in Michigan for storage! I would think that with all of the humidity up there would be bad for it


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spentprimer KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 27 Location: USA Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Newbie intro Reply #11 - May 19^th, 2015 at 1:20pm	Print Post
	Nice rifle you have there. I should let you know that since Michigan is so very far away, I would be willing to look after your Krag and provide proper care and feeding, too. Much, much closer for your visits and you can shop at the Mall of America! Welcome to the forum!


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Newbie intro Reply #12 - May 19^th, 2015 at 2:22pm	Print Post
	Controlled humidity is good for wood. Krags enjoy Michigan!


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psteinmayer KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 2391 Location: Ypsilanti, Michgan Joined: Aug 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Newbie intro Reply #13 - May 19^th, 2015 at 9:46pm	Print Post
	Amen to that Chuck...


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1911Ron KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 59 Location: Buckeye,Az Joined: May 16^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Newbie intro Reply #14 - May 20^th, 2015 at 2:47am	Print Post
	butlersrangers wrote on May 19^th, 2015 at 2:22pm: Controlled humidity is good for wood. Krags enjoy Michigan!


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