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mgbill KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1 Location: Md Joined: Sep 18^th, 2013 Gender:	Holes in my Carbine's Receiver Jun 13^th, 2017 at 6:04pm	Print Post
	Have a Model 1899 Carbine that some previous owner has mutilated with two holes in the left side of the receiver. The holes are approximately 1/8" in diameter, approx. 3/8" apart (center to center), and are tapped. Currently there are blanking screws in the holes. To give an idea of their location, they wipe out the "EL" in SPRINGFIELD, and the "AR" in ARMORY. Can anyone give me an idea of what these holes might have been for? All I can think of is some sort of scope mount. (It seems like a weird place for a receiver sight, but I suppose you could put one there...)


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Tom Butts KCA Forum Admin KCA Official Member Offline Krag enthusiast! Posts: 347 Location: New York State Joined: Apr 1^st, 2002 Gender:	Re: Holes in my Carbine's Receiver Reply #1 - Jun 14^th, 2017 at 2:13am	Print Post
	It is most likely that they were for a scope mount.


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psteinmayer KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 2391 Location: Ypsilanti, Michgan Joined: Aug 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Holes in my Carbine's Receiver Reply #2 - Jun 14^th, 2017 at 12:32pm	Print Post
	Scope... typical location for drilling and tapping. Shouldn't affect how it shoots though.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Holes in my Carbine's Receiver Reply #3 - Jun 14^th, 2017 at 5:15pm	Print Post
	That's a very odd hole placement. 'Two holes', drilled and tapped, would suggest they were for a Receiver 'Peep' Sight. However, as 'mgbill' states, the placement is peculiar and in the middle of the receiver. Receiver sight holes are usually located behind the serial number. Weaver scope mounts use four holes and William's scope mounts use three. (I don't know about Echo mounts and other obscure ones). FWIW - Here are some sight and mount examples.
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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Holes in my Carbine's Receiver Reply #4 - Jun 14^th, 2017 at 7:10pm	Print Post
	Possible lesser known scope-mounts that could have been fitted to a Krag with two receiver screw-holes. #1. Stith. #2. Miller 'Kodiak' mount with B&L 'Balvar' scope.


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madsenshooter KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1079 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2009	Re: Holes in my Carbine's Receiver Reply #5 - Jun 15^th, 2017 at 1:28am	Print Post
	No screw holes needed on that bottom one, the Miller Kodiak Mount. I have one on my cutdown 92/96. I did add two screwholes on the barrel to hold a removeable dovetail, rather than have a dovetail cut directly into the barrel. Over the center interferes with case ejection, but I don't mind. If I need a rapid fire rifle, I'll take something else. I think a receiver sight mounted where the OP indicated the holes are might also interfere with ejection.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Holes in my Carbine's Receiver Reply #6 - Jun 15^th, 2017 at 2:45am	Print Post
	madsenshooter - How is the rear Ring anchored on the Miller 'Kodiak' mount?


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madsenshooter KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1079 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2009	Re: Holes in my Carbine's Receiver Reply #7 - Jun 15^th, 2017 at 4:45am	Print Post
	Hi BR! It isn't fastened at the rear. It just sits on hardened set screws, under tension from the big leaf spring under the scope in your picture. One can pull up on the rear of the scope, rotate it 90 degrees and it comes off. I keep a bolt that has a Rice sight on it to use the rifle without the scope, which now a days never happens cause I can't see without a scope anymore. Return to zero seems to be pretty good if you make sure those set screws go back to the same place by lightly thumping the mount at the rear ring.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Holes in my Carbine's Receiver Reply #8 - Jun 15^th, 2017 at 5:17am	Print Post
	madsenshooter - Thanks, I never would have guessed that would work. Wheeee .... !!!!


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reincarnated KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 562 Joined: Mar 11^th, 2012	Re: Holes in my Carbine's Receiver Reply #9 - Jun 15^th, 2017 at 7:56pm	Print Post
	Does anyone know of one of those Stith Streamline mounts for sale? I need one for my Mod. 54 Winchester in .30-30.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Holes in my Carbine's Receiver Reply #10 - Jun 15^th, 2017 at 8:51pm	Print Post
	Nice Winchester to have!


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madsenshooter KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1079 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2009	Re: Holes in my Carbine's Receiver Reply #11 - Jun 16^th, 2017 at 2:28pm	Print Post
	reincarnated wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 7:56pm: Does anyone know of one of those Stith Streamline mounts for sale? I need one for my Mod. 54 Winchester in .30-30. I have a Stith stuff stash, but I just moved. It's in a bag, but which box is the bag in? I'll PM you if I find anything useful to you, it may be some time before I find it, so if anything else comes up for you, don't hesitate waiting on me.


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