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Re: Model 1896 rifle taking shape
Reply #15 - Feb 25th, 2018 at 8:56pm
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Thanks 'Zgun'.

I did use 'ACRAGLAS', including the fiberglass 'flocking' and brown dye.
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Reply #16 - Feb 26th, 2018 at 2:19am
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Thought that was what I was looking at. Did not have the consistency and color of expoxy. Did not want to call you out... Cool
  
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Reply #17 - Feb 26th, 2018 at 11:04am
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Nice work!  Photos show a nice matchup. 
Curious, how are the exact hole centers determined for the two pieces of wood?
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Reply #18 - Feb 26th, 2018 at 5:28pm
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'Kerz' - I determined holes by eye and 'by guess & by golly'.

I drilled the hole into the replacement forearm, first.  I inserted a plastic headed thumb-tack, point out, into the hole.

With the barreled/action in the stock, I used the barrel as a guide.

I moved the forearm into approximate position and the point of the thumb-tack marked the spot for the 'stock hole'.

The holes were a slightly loose fit on the threaded rod to allow ample ACRAGLAS. The holes also 'vented' into the hidden 'lightening-cuts', of the stock and forearm, so 'compression' did not interfere with the glue flow.

I 'notched' the threaded-rod beforehand for the Forearm 'barrel-band pin'. I put a 'witness mark' (black felt tip mark) on the threaded-rod and its forearm hole.

With everything apart, barrel (joint area) coated with Vaseline, and ACRAGLAS mixed, I ladled ACRAGLAS (with popsicle-stick) into forearm hole, on front half of threaded-rod, and splice surface. The threaded rod was inserted into forearm, turned to 'index mark', and a small finish nail inserted as a temporary 'barrel-band pin'.

ACRAGLAS was then ladled into the stock hole, on the cut surface, and a bit in the barrel channel-splice area. The barreled-action and stock were put together and secured with just the front guard-screw (tight) and a wrap of masking tape at finger-grooves.

The threaded-dowel (coated with ACRAGLAS) and the forearm were now slipped into position. The forearm was secured with the front barrel-band (without screw) and a wrap of masking tape ahead of the 'glue joint. I tapped the forearm tip with a plastic mallet, made sure the bayonet fit and positioned properly (in relation to the front-sight base), and that the top edges of the stock and forearm aligned.

I also made sure I could see a bit of 'daylight' between the top of the barrel and the loops on the front barrel-band.

During the initial hardening of the ACRAGLAS the rifle was rotated so that the bedding compound did not settle unevenly.
  
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Re: Model 1896 rifle taking shape
Reply #19 - Feb 26th, 2018 at 6:35pm
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Thanks for the details Chuck. That is a very solid repair. You have a nice looking rifle
  
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Re: Model 1896 rifle taking shape
Reply #20 - Feb 26th, 2018 at 7:54pm
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Vasoline as release agent.  Why didn't I think of that?
  
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Re: Model 1896 rifle taking shape
Reply #21 - Feb 26th, 2018 at 8:49pm
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'Vasoline' works to prevent ACRAGLAS bonding to barrel and it's more convenient than the stuff in the 'kit'.

I forgot to say I pulled out the finish-nail (temporary barrel-band pin) before ACRAGLAS fully hardened. I cleaned out the hole with a drill after complete hardening.

(p.s. This process worked for my level of incompetence. I am sure there are better and more craftsman-like approaches to 'Stock Stretching').

Time and use will establish adequacy of my method. Hey, I'm not going to Bayonet anybody! The splice just has to prevent front part of forearm from separating during shooting, remain stable & consistent, and not restrict expansion of hot barrel.
  
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Re: Model 1896 rifle taking shape
Reply #22 - Feb 26th, 2018 at 9:04pm
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Fine looking rifle BR!!!

Good Job... and I'm sure it will bring many years of shooting pleasure.
  
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Reply #23 - Feb 27th, 2018 at 11:06am
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Thx Chuck for the info.  The wood between the bolt recess cut and magazine broke out on my 1898.  Just try get some ideas on how to repair.
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Re: Model 1896 rifle taking shape
Reply #24 - Feb 27th, 2018 at 12:22pm
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Vic - Hopefully, you have the broken piece. If so, (take stock off your Krag), clean up the surfaces at the break, so they 'mate' nicely. Mix up some ACRAGLAS and 'glue' piece to stock. Once ACRAGLAS has hardened, a small vertical hole could be drilled on 'inside' of stock and a fine pin, made from a finish-nail, inserted with 'glue' to reinforce.

p.s. - That is an all to common break on a Krag Stock. If you don't have the broken piece, one can be fashioned. A patch piece cut from an old 'junked' 1903 Springfield 'donor' Stock might be a good match.
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Re: Model 1896 rifle taking shape
Reply #25 - Feb 27th, 2018 at 1:21pm
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Vic,

A piece of surgical tubing wrapped several times around the repair (if that is an option for this one) makes an excellent clamp.
  
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Reply #26 - Feb 27th, 2018 at 3:18pm
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Hmmmmm - rifle is cocked, wonder if it was loaded?
  
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Reply #27 - Feb 27th, 2018 at 6:00pm
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Chuck - that was a fantastic job on the forend, and a really great set of guidelines for how to do it - including a couple of ideas I had not thought of.
  
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Re: Model 1896 rifle taking shape
Reply #28 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 10:48am
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Thx guys for the repair tips.  Yelp, still got the broken piece.  I'll work on it when it gets back from Chuck Moline. Tidying up some issues after the new Criterion was installed.
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