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Val99 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6 Location: Christiansburg, Virginia Joined: Sep 30^th, 2019 Gender:	Original 1898 carbine upgraded to 1899 Sep 30^th, 2019 at 7:10pm	Print Post
	Found this original within serial numbers 1898 carbine upgraded to 1901 carbine rear sight and 1899 stock and handguard. Front sight has the small "c" also...was dirty and had white speckled mold throughout the wood and was taken apart and cleaned. Comments?


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Val99 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6 Location: Christiansburg, Virginia Joined: Sep 30^th, 2019 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine upgraded to 1899 Reply #1 - Sep 30^th, 2019 at 7:14pm	Print Post
	More pics...


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Val99 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6 Location: Christiansburg, Virginia Joined: Sep 30^th, 2019 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine upgraded to 1899 Reply #2 - Sep 30^th, 2019 at 7:15pm	Print Post
	More...


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Original 1898 carbine upgraded to 1899 Reply #3 - Sep 30^th, 2019 at 7:41pm	Print Post
	Val99 - Welcome to the KCA Forum. You have a nice legitimate 'updated carbine', that's a veteran that could tell some stories! Is there any 'Cartouche' or "Circled P" on the stock?


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Whig KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1324 Location: Balt MD Joined: Sep 24^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine upgraded to 1899 Reply #4 - Sep 30^th, 2019 at 8:41pm	Print Post
	Welcome. You appear to have joined the ranks of having a nice 1898 Krag carbine. Lots of carbine parts that may or may not have been together for a while but they are now. How's the bore? I'm always looking up other people's bores. Old habit of mine. Good bores often make good shooters but are not always necessary. Looks like you cleaned her up well. Many authentic M1898 carbines are in the 120K range. There are rifles mixed into these ranges a lot but yours appears correct. Nice to have your butt storage compartment full also. Enjoy and see what you can find next to build on your addicting Krag habit!


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Val99 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6 Location: Christiansburg, Virginia Joined: Sep 30^th, 2019 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine upgraded to 1899 Reply #5 - Sep 30^th, 2019 at 9:16pm	Print Post
	Thank you for the kind words on my one of 5001 carbines! The bore is quite good and will try to get a picture of it for you. Price of my carbine was cheaper than a sporterized rifle at the Chantilly gun show this past weekend. Dealer is known for buying out estates and not cleaning items up before selling them.


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Val99 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6 Location: Christiansburg, Virginia Joined: Sep 30^th, 2019 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine upgraded to 1899 Reply #6 - Sep 30^th, 2019 at 9:18pm	Print Post
	butlersrangers wrote on Sep 30^th, 2019 at 7:41pm: Val99 - Welcome to the KCA Forum. Clean stock with no markings at all probably a field replacement. You have a nice legitimate 'updated carbine', that's a veteran that could tell some stories! Is there any 'Cartouche' or "Circled P" on the stock?


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Whig KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1324 Location: Balt MD Joined: Sep 24^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine upgraded to 1899 Reply #7 - Sep 30^th, 2019 at 11:36pm	Print Post
	I found some pictures of one of my two M1898 Krag carbines to share. This one is SN: 120864. The other one is SN: 120021. So, out of 5002 manufactured, I have two, Val99 has one. I would like to have posts by any members (and guests) who have M1898 carbines so we can get an informal count of how many of the original 5002 we represent at KCA. I would like to know how many original ones remain as well as refitted ones. This carbine below has been refitted with the M1899 32 inch style stock without the swivel ring, no cartouche and an M1901c rear sight. My other M1898 is an original 30" stock with faint cartouche visible, M1896c rear sight and swivel ring. I'll get pictures of that one soon. This is very similar to Val99s.


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Whig KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1324 Location: Balt MD Joined: Sep 24^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine upgraded to 1899 Reply #8 - Sep 30^th, 2019 at 11:36pm	Print Post
	More M1898 pics SN: 120864.


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psteinmayer KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 2391 Location: Ypsilanti, Michgan Joined: Aug 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine upgraded to 1899 Reply #9 - Oct 1^st, 2019 at 11:12am	Print Post
	Welcome to the forum Val99! Pretty dandy carbine there! Have you fired it yet? How about a range report... Put a few cleaning patches in that trap with the cleaning rods and oiler to keep that stuff from rattling around.


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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine upgraded to 1899 Reply #10 - Oct 1^st, 2019 at 2:31pm	Print Post
	Whig: 131024 in short stock.


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Whig KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1324 Location: Balt MD Joined: Sep 24^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine upgraded to 1899 Reply #11 - Oct 1^st, 2019 at 2:35pm	Print Post
	Is this with an M1896c rear sight and swivel ring also Dick? I don't imagine there are many of these around. Would be nice to have some idea how many M1898 carbines are still in the original short stocks. Nice part of your collection.


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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine upgraded to 1899 Reply #12 - Oct 1^st, 2019 at 6:55pm	Print Post
	Yes, and yes. Had it a long time. Not the "hottest" of s/n ranges, but there is a significant little cluster in the high 130K-low 131K area. I think it's been in that short stock for quite awhile, from the blue/wear pattern on the barrel. I'm lucky to have it.


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Val99 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6 Location: Christiansburg, Virginia Joined: Sep 30^th, 2019 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine upgraded to 1899 Reply #13 - Oct 2^nd, 2019 at 1:35am	Print Post
	Yes, it would be quite informative to find out how many exist today along with serial number ranges. Whig wrote on Sep 30^th, 2019 at 11:36pm: I found some pictures of one of my two M1898 Krag carbines to share. This one is SN: 120864. The other one is SN: 120021. So, out of 5002 manufactured, I have two, Val99 has one. I would like to have posts by any members (and guests) who have M1898 carbines so we can get an informal count of how many of the original 5002 we represent at KCA. I would like to know how many original ones remain as well as refitted ones. This carbine below has been refitted with the M1899 32 inch style stock without the swivel ring, no cartouche and an M1901c rear sight. My other M1898 is an original 30" stock with faint cartouche visible, M1896c rear sight and swivel ring. I'll get pictures of that one soon. This is very similar to Val99s.


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