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Re: Criterion Barrels
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Here's another carbine barrel that just recently came up for auction on Ebay:
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Two Krag projects, rifle and carbine
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And the 1896 carbine project
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Nice looking parts and projects. Your bolts look like new old stock.
Do you have a local gun-smith, who does work on Krag and 1903 Springfield rifles?
You could have things made into a rather nice replica carbine. It requires someone who can do a proper job on the barrel work and front-sight mounting.
A few members have had successful Criterion barrel installations. (I hope they see and respond to your query).
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Thanks and no, nobody local for installing barrels. If I could find a good original barrel I'd snag it and if I could find someone to install a front sight on a Criterion I'd do that too - whichever worked out first.
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Chuck Moline is an excellent gunsmith. That said, my Krag was the last rebarrel he was going to do.
Suggest you give him a call and discuss. Great guy to talk with.
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'S99VG' - Unfortunately, I can not direct you to anyone who is doing nice Krag barrel work and sight installations.
Given the parts you are putting together, I would be very fussy and want a correct looking barrel, crown and sight installation.
I have not seen any front sight jobs that approach this:
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As a stopgap, if you see a good original barrel 'cut-down' to 22" to 26" on ebay or GunBroker, it could be a good inexpensive option.
It can give you a 'carbine' to shoot and enjoy. It can be improved at a later date, when you find someone that can do the work.
Last year, I put a 'faux-NRA carbine' together from a stripped model 1898 action and accumulated parts.
I got a barrel with a very decent bore for around $45, plus shipping.
What I bought, as a 'cut-down', actually turned out to be a '96 carbine barrel with the front-site filed off and 'dovetailed'.
Someday, I may have a nice base installed on it.
To use the barrel in the meantime, I fitted a 1903 Springfield 'banded' front sight.
The barrel indexed fairly close to the 'mark' and head-spaced properly.
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I would humbly suggest to anyone refinishing a stripped stock purchase a copy of Joe Farmers book as joe documents the finish used by Springfield and it is not simply boiled linseed oil.
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I'm guessing skillful sanding & scraping, logwood stain, and immersion in hot vats of raw linseed oil.
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As I said there is more to it that boiled linseed oil.
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With all the long barrels sawed off to make sporters and faux carbines. There has to be a lot of barrel ends that were not thrown away. One might look for these and remove the original front sights to have a supply. It would not be too hard for a machinist or a gun smith to make the appropriate dove tail to slide them in and finish braze or silver solder.
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Thanks guys, I really appreciate all your help and yeah I'm being a bit fussy with both these guns. Both actually started as stripped receivers with a lot of time spent looking for original parts that matched the condition of the metal as I got them. However, as mentioned above, the bolts which are NOS 1896 parts. I'm big into 03 Springfields. I have one foray in the world of Garands that started with a receiver that was made in August of 41, the month but not year of my birth. After its dinished, I have a Redfield 70 that may go on the rifle just to see what that rifle can do with a good peep sight. After that, it will either get an 01 or 02 sight. Meanwhile, the quest for the carbine barrel continues and as I said above, I'm on the fence when it comes to looking for a decent example of an original or trying to make a good show of it with a Criterion and after market front sight. Again, thanks much for all the great input and advice.
Here is another pic of a few other ongoing projects and the carbine with a repro 1902 handguard and 02 sight.
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Re: Criterion Barrels
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FredC wrote
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With all the long barrels sawed off to make sporters and faux carbines. There has to be a lot of barrel ends that were not thrown away. One might look for these and remove the original front sights to have a supply. It would not be too hard for a machinist or a gun smith to make the appropriate dove tail to slide them in and finish braze or silver solder.
One would think but I have never came across a barrel stub with the front sight. I think they must have gone in the trash can back "in the day" with the survivors sent off during WWII scrap drives.
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Re: Criterion Barrels
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When I've seen Krag barrel 'stubs' and removed front-sight bases come up on ebay, they have sold for expensive prices.
Removed bases get very mutilated by the removal efforts.
The front sight base was dovetailed and brazed to the Krag barrel-blank early in the manufacturing process and is a strong bond.
It became the reference/locating point for most of the machining and threading operations.
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